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devote the necessary resources. and education nation. a political breakthrough in the fight to save philadelphia's public schools. >> the city, the state, the src, and the school district are working in partnership and have committed themselves on behalf of the children of the city of philadelphia to work together, to make things happen. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we have developing news. for someone who isn't speaking very much with the mainstream media, sarah palin's e-mail about to do a whole lot of talking to for her. it has taken three years but alaskan officials and our own reporters are going through 24,000 pages of documents from palin's time as governor and vice presidential candidate. chuck todd joins us now here. this is a big impact. we don't know as michael isikoff is up there in alaska and all of our friends at msnbc.com, one of
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the initiators of the lawsuit in 2008, it has taken three years. we don't know yet what it shows but palin has been a larger than life factor on the political stage. >> she has. and what mike isikoff, one of the ways he was telling us about the e-mails is that this was going to be from other public officials because she used a private account, but whenever she sent e-mails to other public officials, and that sort of is where a lot of these e-mail -- the information could be coming. all this, we have this happening, we have the movie which -- >> i'll ask you about that. >> mark murray and i saw a preview copy of yesterday and interviewed the director from that. that's coming out in july. so the palin action is starting to heat up. >> we see these live pictures as the documents are being released. and hundreds of volunteers have been recruited by the major -- >> hard copies, not electronically either, go figure. >> everyone is up there in juneau. michael isikoff joins us now
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from juneau as you're beginning to go through this. i know this is just the start of a process. michael? >> reporter: right, well, we have got 24,000 pages to go through, which is a lot of documents. this is a massive dump. and it is covering two and a half years of palin's period of governor. and, you know, we're going to be looking over all the controversies that a lot of us first began immersing ourselves during the summer of 2008, when she was picked by john mccain. and also looking for new clues into her character and her governing style. >> michael, i know we want to let you go to go through the e-mails and come back later in the program and get us up to date. chuck, we talk about -- >> reporter: i'll give you a report, yeah. >> we talk about sarah palin, this documentary, quote/unquote documentary, very favorable documentary, being released by mc and a couple of target
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theaters. you could call this sort of the first flick poll, if you will, of moviegoers, whether they want to see this or not. >> amc is not doing it for political reasons. she has a following. let's see if that translates into movies. think of it the way a michael moore documentary that has its own political agenda does the same thing. if it catches fire, they release it. >> you saw the whole thing yesterday. let's watch. >> the first 90 days were insane. we worked like dogs. seven days a week, 15-hour days. >> all decisions must go through this ceo. >> if things were to go wrong, they wanted ability for the people to know where does that blame lay? >> she was the ceo of 25,000 employees. >> of all the 50 governors in the united states, she was sitting at the desk as one of the most powerful and she wasn't afraid to use those. >> one of the interesting things you were reporting after going
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to the screening was that in the documentary, they go after eric cantor, mitch mcconnell, she's going after the republican leadership, the establishment. >> the director of the movie says, full well, she did -- she gave them some home movies. but beyond that, she didn't overly cooperate with the movie, didn't ask for it to be done. he admits that the director in this says his motivation is two fold. he feels as if the alaska story wasn't told very well. and that a lot of people don't know the alaska story, what she did as governor and all this. the irony is many of the people you see speaking on ""alaska" ad the clip, they're democrats. she beat up on big oil. you hear some of that. it is some things that don't always necessarily translate easily ideologically to some in the conservative movement, but the final 20 minutes of the film features, you got andrew breitbart, mark levine, the talk radio, conservative talk radio host, between the two of them,
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and what the film director says he wants to try to do, which was beat up the conservative establishment a little bit, blames the conservative establishment for not defending her during 2008, and compares it to what the republican conservative establishment did to ronald reagan and the director said, what he hopes happens -- what he hopes happens is that he wants the republican primary to become another 1976. i asked him, i said, this sounds like you're hoping palin leaves the republican party, just the way he beats it up. he goes no to the contrary. i want a 1976 style of heart and soul where eventually it leads to a reagan conservative taking control of the party. >> first it led to -- >> the defeat of an incumbent republican president. but that didn't bother the -- some of these conservatives back in '76. they were happier about it. and that's what they think, without that loss, they never would have gotten reagan. >> i got to ask you about newt gingrich before you go. the departure of all of these
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top staff people who might swing over to rick perry, some had worked for rick perry before, this is newt gingrich today commenting on it. >> we live in a time when americans are genuinely frightened for their country's future. when the country really wants to have leadership, that talks with him honestly and isn't automatically doing the old politics, we make decisions as a couple. i think most couples find that refreshing. >> calista, the relationship, the fact that they took that vacation when the staff thought they needed to be fixing the problems he created for himself when he went on "meet the press" with david gregory, this is a meltdown the likes of which we have not seen in a long time. >> no, we have an entire staff. it was one thing for some of the hired gun, rob johnson and dave carney, two guys that worked for rick perry, two guys you're referring to, who may end up if rick perry decides to run for president, probably be key figures on it. but the loss of rick tyler, you and i have been dealing with rick tyler for over, you know,
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for the entire post speakership of newt gingrich. this is somebody very loyal to speaker gingrich. it says a lot that he was part of this crew. this wasn't just the two perry guys deciding, oh, hey, look, rick perry is flirting, maybe it is time to go. >> this is not analogous to people being fired. they quit. >> they all quit. look, john mccain had two camps and he fired one of them. and that happens. that's a candidate taking control of their campaign. this is a case where you're sitting there -- i remember, look, i couldn't believe the vacation. you announce and then leave, the signal that sends and you don't leave on just any vacation, on a posh greek cruise, the signal that sends to people that you're asking to give money, give their sweat and blood, it is a real -- i'm not surprised, frankly. >> it is a tiffany vacation, isn't it? >> enough said. the whole thing is, other than
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defending his wife, she's taking the brunt of the criticism from the staff. >> chuck todd. >> what a week. >> what a week in politics. >> unbelievable. the race has begun. yes. >> thank you. and what does it mean for 2012 now that the race has begun? with us now, the co-authors of "game change." first, mark halperin, msnbc senior political analyst and editor at large at "time" magazine and john holliman, national affairs editor for "new york magazine." thank you very much. first to you, mark. let's talk about newt gingrich, and what you're hearing about rick perry? >> i don't think newt gingrich had a great chance to be the nominee tomorrow. he has a less good chance now to say the least. and it remains to be seen what spaces opens up for other people. i think gingrich had a chance to take up a lot of space in iowa, in south carolina, and obviously opens up room for rick perry,
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not just because it is going to create more of a vacuum particularly because gingrich was one of the few people in the race, is one of the few people in the race with the hold on the tea party, potentially, on social conservatives potentially. but because of two of gingrich's top advisers, dave carney and rob johnson, worked for rick perry on his last campaign. carney worked with him for a long time. if perry wants to run, he wants a-level people around had him and he has a chance to do that now. if they stayed with gingrich, it would have made him harder for him to run operationally. >> gingrich, john, is saying, he's going to be in l.a. this weekend. will be in the debate on monday night. but is it all over but the fat lady sings? >> but the shouting. i think the -- there is a -- you remember old cartoons, where the road runners, they're chasing the road runner and he gets his head cut off and the body keeps running. that is sort of what you have here. there is some amount of --
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gingrich does not want to just up and quit. there is probably some part of him because he is a very self-confident and kind of messianic figure that maybe he can run this different kind of campaign without any high price consultants around him, not a big staff and he'll take his message to the american people. i think he'll quickly find that is a very difficult thing to do, especially given how badly things have gone up to this point. >> let's talk about mitt romney. because, mark, here he is skipping aims, iowa, not planning to participate in nonbinding straw polls in many other states, michigan and florida, he did participate in ames and there is a lot of quotes out there where back then he said, you know, you can't do this, can't be in iowa in january if you haven't been there in july. so what is the benefit here? what does it tell you about the romney campaign that he's going to skip the straw polls? >> they want to control the
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schedule and they want to control the decisions they make and not be driven by other people. the straw poll was a loser for him? if he went all in, to try to win it and won it, people would say he won it last time, he spent a lot of money. wouldn't make much of a difference. if he lost it, it would be horrible for him. i think mitt romney now has a chance, even skipping ames with the feathers that will ruffle in iowa to win the iowa caucuses and then win the new hampshire primary and end this fight for the nomination faster than people expected at this point. it is not a sure thing by any means. i think skipping this straw poll and the others fit in with their macro plan, play possum, lay low, and try to enter the new year when the voting actually begins, still as the front-runner, taking minimal fire and minimal risk so it is consistent with that and i think it is unambiguously a smart move for him. >> a smart move but does it risk appearing to be too overconfident, will the others, tim pawlenty and others, take shots at him saying that he doesn't want to compete, that he thinks he's got it wrapped up. >> they may. they may take shots like that.
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they may be comforted by looking back on what happened on 2008 when john mccain did not participate in the straw poll, did not really compete in iowa, and yet -- it was a story. people took pot shots at him for not doing that. in the end, it goes away. what happens is the press focuses on who is competing there and someone like romney could do what mccain did. if he doesn't do as well as mark thinks co-do, s he could do, h a surprising third. it doesn't matter what happens in iowa, if he does not win in new hampshire, he will not be the republican nominee. they're correctly, i think, in some ways, there is a rational for this, focusing all their energy on that and trying to diminish expectations in other places. if he wins in new hampshire, it is off to the races. if he doesn't, he won't be the nominee. >> is this the field or are more to come? >> i think rick perry is a possibility and governor palin who we were talking about earlier could get in. but beyond that, i think the chances that both those get in are still possible, maybe one of
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them. but i think we're largely still looking as we have discussed before, andrea, at romney, governor huntsman, governor pawlenty as the three heavyweights in this race. everyone else, michele bachmann, herb cane and others can affect outcome. short of other people getting in and i still think it is -- this is the field most likely we're looking at those big three as the likely nominees. >> and just to share with you what we're hearing from our nbc news folks and msnbc is that inside the palin box so far we have a lot of redacted materials, so you have materials that are not in the documents, boxes are packed with single space black ink on white paper. and the documents are in chronological order and the boxes way 50 pounds. so do your weight lifting on the palin docs and we'll have more coming up with mike isikoff, thanks to you. our game change boys. right now, we're keeping our eye on juneau, alaska, where hundreds of volunteers are digging through sarah palin's
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just released e-mails. headlines emerging, we'll bring them to you. plus, america's role in libya, iraq, afghanistan, we'll cover it all with former defense secretary william cohen. send me your thoughts on twitter @mitchellreports. an accident doesn't have to slow you down.
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and now the hot spots overseas. in yemen, thousands of people today rallied for and against wounded president saleh in the capital. saleh is in saudi arabia, still recuperating from serious burns suffered during an attack. but has said he wants to return to yemen soon. in northern syria, dozens of tanks are pushing into anti-government strongholds, but most residents in that region have already fled. thousands heading to turkey. and nato is disputing reports that one of its helicopters has been shot down in libya.
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libyan tv said that incident occurred off the coast today. nato says there is no indication of any attack. with me now is former defense secretary william cohen, now chairman and ceo of the cohen group. let's talk about yemen because there is no question in most experts' mind and no one is more expert than you, that saleh is not returning back. saudi arabia would not have taken him in after trying to broker this deal and all of these surgeries we're told which will take months to come if there were any chance he was coming back. that's precisely why the u.s. is increasing the tempo of its attacks, to try to secure and win gains against al qaeda in the arabian peninsula during this vacuum of power. >> right. al qaeda presents a real threat to the united states and to others. they -- excuse me, they have been really involved in yemen. they have a stronghold they're setting up and the intensification of those attacks are trying to really undermine them as quickly as we can because of the chaos, seemed to
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be descending upon the country isse itself, a civil war under way, two places, north and south. this poses a threat, the instability and al qaeda to saudi arabia itself. so this is something of great concern to us. >> let me take you around the world, libya, first. the outgoing defense secretary made his farewell pitch to nato. and is saying that nato has to do more, that this is not an american burden. this as we're hearing increasing pushback from the hill. house votes against the libyan engagement, senate hearings, you know, devolving into criticism. we had senator webb and bob corker on yesterday. beith both of them crafting a resolution this is not our war to fight. >> number one, i think the president has an obligation to communicate with congress. he may be in a position to take action on a temporary basis. it is always very good policy for the united states -- for the president of the united states to go to congress, go to the key leaders saying this is what we
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p propose to do, we need your support. going in after in this case, much after launching this particular mission, i think is a mistake. you need the people to support it. secondly, the mission itself, the political goal of getting rid of gadhafi is inconsistent with the assigned military mission. there is a real conflict there or mismatch. so there is legitimate concern on the part of capitol hill saying what is the mission, not clearly defined, how how lolong you going to be in and how are we going to get snout that ingi? i think the president has to address this very, very quickly. >> leon panetta, incoming defense chief. we all assume his confirmation is -- he is going to face the political fallout from whatever decision the president makes on afghanistan. we understand the recommendation is going to the president next week if it isn't already there on his desk. this was jim webb on our show yesterday, talking about some shocking returns -- results from
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a report on what our civilian reconstruction has and has not achieved in afghanistan. hundreds of billions of dollars. let's watch. >> if there is any country in the world that really needs a nation building program right now, it is the united states. and when we're putting hundreds of billions of dollars into infrastructure programs and other countries, when our infrastructure is falling apart, i don't think that makes a lot of sense. >> growing feeling in congress, by leaders in both parties, that what we're spending in afghanistan is not worth it. nobody is saying, pull everybody out right now. but the pace of redeployment is really at stake. >> the president is going to be caught in a cross rough so to speak. on the one hand, he's got to come up with a solution, perhaps a kind of gold goldilocks solu. if he cuts too little, el be attacked by the democrats saying this is inconsistent with the nobel peace prize winner we have here who promised to bring peace and not to wage war. he's going to come up with
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something that will have the support of the military at least in the short-term. and this is something he'll rely upon general petraeus to come and testify, he'll reply upon general dempsey and others and mike mullen, the current chairman of the joint chiefs, to say we'll do this an orderly fashion. if you do it too quickly it will undermine everything we have done. if you don't do enough of it, we're going to engage congress in a fierce debate over this. >> speaking of general petraeus, he has to step up to the challenge of becoming cia director. he has to face his hearings and confirmation. but it is not an automatic done deal that the most successful military general of recent decades is necessarily going to be a good fit for the culture of the cia. and one challenge that he's going to face, immediately, is that the head of the counterterrorism center, highly regarded michael leiter, has stepped down. he's been there since 2007. that's a big empty gap. he's largely credited with a lot of the work that went into the bin laden kill. >> i have enormous confidence in general petraeus.
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i've worked with him over the years. i know he has certainly the intellectual capability of coping with about any challenge and i think you'll find he'll do a very outstanding job as cia director. >> certainly has huge support around the country and in washington and in the white house at this point. >> he does. justifiably. >> thank you very much. and up next, anthony weiner trying to find friends in congress and some surprising news from the home district. politico next here on "andrea mitchell reports." host: could switching to geico really save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance? was abe lincoln honest? mary: does this dress make my backside look big? abe: perhaps... host: could switching to geico reon car insurance? or more host: do dogs chase cats? ♪ 70's music sfx: squealing tires.
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democratic leaders are pressing anthony weiner to resign but he shows no sign of quitting. in a new marist poll, 56% of people in his district think he should stay put. glen thrush joins us now. hi, glen. it seems almost incredible that he could survive this politically, given that nancy pelosi, steve israel and others
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have put out the word. but he certainly is get something comfort from home from those numbers in the marist poll. >> well, i have to tell you, you know, nancy pelosi and austin swartz and all the members of congress don't live in cue gardens, queens. i used to live in that district that he represents. i can tell you, they care more about whether or not he's taking care of their medicare complaints in the storefront office on metropolitan avenue, whether or not, you know, he's working on traffic problems, he's got a year and a half to clean this stuff up and i think the attitude in that neighborhood is going to be a lot of jewish grandmothers telling him to mend his ways. >> well, except outside of the district, you've got jewish grandmothers like nina zoe and others -- powerful members of congress and nita lowey telling him how disappointed they are in him. when he get backs next week, the whole atmosphere will change because then he's not in q
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gardens. he's in the halls of congress, he'll be trailed by reporters and shunned by his colleagues. >> absolutely. he's got subcommittee meetings. i'm not saying this is going to be easy for him or this is going to be a pleasant experience for him. but if he wants to hang on, you know, he will be able to hang on. look, anthony is not a guy who has ever sort of excelled at collegiality or legislating. he is a guy who has been on the cable shows, his legislative record is really thin ens' not an intensely collaborative guy. he's somebody who does most of his work with his mouth. and, you know, he's just not a guy who is considered to be part of the team. so it is not like he wasn't necessarily shunned before. >> what about the bill clinton factor? because excuse any ironies and sort of parallels in terms of facing scandal and being in deni denial, but the fact is that bill clinton and hillary clinton clearly according to all reports not happy with him.
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they treated him like a son-in-law because they treat his wife like another daughter. bill clinton married them and performed the service, an interfaith service. and now all the signals are that the clinton camp is not happy with anthony weiner. >> how could they be? andrea, you know huma abedin. we were on the trail together. she's a professional, dignified, really wonderful person. and for her to have to go through this publicly, particularly now we have learned she's pregnant, is an incredible indignity and people around the clintons are just infuriated that he would put her through this. this is a very personal issue for them. and it really is inconceivable, considering how she, huma, has comported herself over the years. >> exactly. glen thrush, thank you very much. a man from q gardens, you know of what you speak. thanks, glen. have a great weekend. up next, we'll check in with michael isikoff live in alaska on what he's discovering so far in those palin e-mails.
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and the troublemakers get all the attention. so how do you reach the kids in the middle?
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it says privileged or personal material redacted. not uncommon in freedom of information act requests. look, we were told from the beginning there would be a lot of redactions here. we have got 189-page list of those redactions that amounts to some 2,275 pages. there is a lot to go through. i don't want to make any premature judgments that we're not going to see a lot of material here in these documents. but i can tell you one thing, you know, regardless of what is in here, i think we are going to -- we're just pouring through this now, we already learned something and that is that the mere fact that we have so many reporters, news organizations who have flocked up here to juneau to start pouring over this material is a pretty good indication that sarah palin, even though she hasn't even yet said whether she's going to run, remains the sort of celebrity superstar in this field.
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>> let me add that tim crawford says the e-mails detail a governor hard at work. everyone should read them. this could turn out to be actually in her benefit, we don't know. we'll go through them. michael, i trust you -- >> reporter: we'll see. >> thank you very much. more to come. and now to education nation on the road. this week at the national constitution center in philadelphia, a city whose school district is in the throes of a $629 million budge crisis, with federal budget cuts taking money from the states, the financial burden for public education is being shouldered by local communities all over the country. philadelphia's mayor michael nutter has taken matters into his own hands, signing an agreement last night to give the city significantly more power over school spending. he announced that agreement with us at the franklin institute in philadelphia last night and joins us right now. mr. mayor, thanks very much. what will this agreement giving you more power to do what you
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need to do regarding the school budget, how does that help you? i know you're going to city council and proposing tax increases in order to close this budget gap. >> andrea, thank you for the opportunity and education nation has been just spectacular here in philadelphia. the announcement yesterday along with the pennsylvania secretary of education, secretary tomales and the school reform commission and the superintendent allows us to have a closer working relationship. a better partnership, greater transparency and openness, sharing of information so we can have a better understanding of how the school district financially operates, how it provides education programs and services. and how the critical choices and decisions are made when it comes to cutting budgets that you really have to have this information in order to make good decisions and better understand this choice versus that choice and what the ultimate outcomes might be. we think that having full day kind garden is very important,
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providing transportation to and from school for children to get there safely is critical. that young people who may have dropped out of school or atged out of school need that opportunity to come back and special services to be able to help them graduate. and that smaller class sizes are better for children because it provides additional attention. those and many other programs are the priorities. i have put forward some ideas that city council, they're literally being debated now. i think that today is one of the most important days in the history of the city of philadelphia. we're at a crossroads. we're either as a city supporting young people and supporting education, or some of our elected leaders may in fact be sending a message to say that they don't support children, that they're not going to help them get off it a great, great start as young people here in the city. so it is an important debate going on, literally as you and i are speaking, they're debating in city council now the future of young people here in philadelphia. i'm standing with the kids, standing with the parents, standing on the economic
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opportunity and the moral responsibility that we have to provide a high quality education with quality options for young people in this city, in this state and all across america. >> and what they're debating are tax increases. will the people go with you on that? >> it remains to be seen. there are a lot of people who do care about public education, beyond parents who have children in school. and most in philadelphia, the broader society, understand that public education may be free for kids, but adults have to pay for it. if you want the services and programs, you do have to pay. and it is tough economically, it is hard to ask folks for additional funding, but i have to tell you that the cost of ignorance is astronomical and we pay for it in the end down the line. >> i wanted to share with our viewers also a prominent education reformer from philadelphia who was one of the speakers at our education forum last night at the franklin institute, talking about the burden that kids face when they
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have a lot of debt coming out of school. lisa nutter. >> what we see a lot are young people who are doing both, working and in school. as hard as it is for them, because they have really figured out the identity piece, because they have really figured out what their goals are, because they have figured out where it is they're heading, they do it. i'm amazed by it. but they do it. it is unfortunate, but there is not an easy solution to it. i think they're figuring it out and they're figuring it out because they're persistent. >> lisa nutter of philadelphia academies, also the first lady of philadelphia and one of the prominent speakers last night. mr. mayor, thank you for your involvement. >> thank you. she's a smarter one in the nutter household. >> well, a wise man who acknowledges that his wife is the smarter one. thanks, always, to you and we look forward to you coming on back and telling us how the council vote goes. the president and his jobs
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council will be meeting in north carolina on monday to look for ways to kick start the struggling economy. elijah cummings joins me now. great to see you. thanks so much, congressman. >> my pleasure. >> what do you want to hear from the president on these pretty woeful job numbers? this is larger than just a political problem for the white house. this is a problem for the nation, obviously. especially the unemployed. >> it is a big problem. what i'm hoping is that he will, again, remind us where we have come from. and that we are on course to do -- to create jobs. i mean, i think he's been saying it quite well lately and that is that a lot of things have been put into place, but now it is up to the business sector, private sector to help us get things moving. we made the banks well. a lot of these companies are sitting on billions of dollars. and not spending it. and i think the other thing that
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needs to say is we need some help from our republican friends. they stand on the sidelines, andrea, and throw spit balls and as he tries to climb a mountain of ice, they pour water on it, trying to push it back down. this president has done some great things. he's created a whole lot of jobs and -- but, as he said, it is not moving fast enough. i'm hoping that he will try to urge all of us to sit down and work this thing out. and the other thing that is interesting is that i hope that he will point out, again, that in a fragile economy, we can't just continue to do the kind of cutting of the budget that our republican colleagues are talking about. all of us know we got to reduce the budget, no doubt about it. but you cannot -- you got to do it with the skilled heart surgeon and not with a hatchet as if you're cutting down trees. >> what are you hearing from the
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vice president's budget talks on how they resumed on thursday, is that the kind of progress you think is being made and needs to be made? >> everything i've heard, andrea, has been very positive, except one thing. it seems as if the republicans want to continue to make sure that the richest of the rich get the tax breaks. and, andrea, i got to tell you, when you look at any budget, you got to look at money going out and money coming in. and, you know, you're talking about basically changing medicare to something that we won't even recognize and giving people vouchers, while at the same time giving wonderful tax breaks to the richest of the rich, come on, now, we need to have some shared sacrifice for shared benefits. and some kind of way i think the republicans have got to say, you know what, it is important that we do make sure that everybody pays their fair share. i've got employees, by the way, andrea, who took a 5% cut and
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probably won't get a pay raise for next four years. some of them making 65, $70,000, but they are sacrificing. why not the rich sacrifice and it is a fragile economy for them too, by the way, for my employees. so i keep hearing the republicans say, this is a fragile economy, you can't raise taxes on the rich, i don't buy it. some kind of way, they have got to back off a bit. i think the american people know that. >> you're facing a tough election cycle with these economic head winds. what about the reputation of congress. i have to ask you as a member of the democratic caucus, do you agree with your colleagues, allison swartz and others, that the best thing for democrats, the best thing would be for anthony weiner to resign? >> i thought about that because i knew you would ask me that. i'm not even going to go there. let me tell you why. i think that anthony weiner will resolve that issue, nancy pelosi asked for an ethics investigation. i think that will be resolved. >> but the ethics investigation, with all due respect, we have seen how those can take years to
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resolve. don't you think that -- >> well, i think that anthony will have to resolve that for himself. i'm more concerned -- to me, that's distracting me and others from what we have to do. when i walked into the studio today, before i could even get in the door, i had five of my constituents begging for jobs, one lady wouldn't let me out of the car because she just lost her house. that's are the kind of issues that americans are grappling with every day. with all due respect, i mean, i'm sure weiner will work his situation out, but i've got constituents that are in deep trouble. they have been hurt by this recession. and you started off the show quite appropriately talking about jobs. they need jobs. so that's what i want to concentrate on. that's what i'm going to concentrate on. i refuse to be distracted by all of this other stuff. >> okay. elijah cummings, thank you very much. coming up this sunday on "meet the press," david gregory has an exclusive debate with
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democratic party chair congresswoman debbie wasserman shuttle and republican party reince priebus, this sunday. check your local listings and you can bet that anthony weiner will be discussed. coming up here, 30 years after the onset of hiv/aids, ban ki-moon called on the world to end the disease by 2020. can that be done?
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hi, everyone. i'm tamron hall. coming up on "newsnation" at 2:00 p.m. eastern time, right now, well, you can say you've got mail and lots of it and nearly 25,000 e-mails from sarah palin's first two years, only two years as governor, just been released. nbc investigative correspondent michael isikoff is live for us in juneau. what new information could we learn from these e-mails? plus, summer has not even officially started yet and we have seen record-breaking heat. i'll talk to a scientist who says the hottest summers that we have experienced are nothing compared to the heat we will see
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in the summers of the future. all that and more just 15 minutes away on "newsnation." it has been 30 years sin s the first reported cases of hiv/aids in this country. since then the numbers have been staggering. 60 million people have been infectioned worldwide. 25 million have died. more than 16 million children have been orphaned by the disease and even today, a frightening 7,000 new hiv infections occur every day. former senator tim worth is the president of the united nations foundation and better world fund and joins us now. let's talk about this anniversary because there is good news. you, your colleagues have accomplished remarkable things along with the global business council. >> it is a very mixed record. i think real progress has been made with the leadership of the united states and the united nations together and increasingly the corporate world becoming involved. george bush, the second bush,
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was terrific in terms of the leadership and the funding that he insisted on. and this new secretary-general has been really remarkable with his 2020 to have zero deaths, zero new cases, and zero stigma, and that is what's important about that is the really good balance between the idea of no new cases which is prevention as well as treatment. and that's the tricky part is to balance off prevention and treatment together. >> is that goal achievable? >> of course it's achievable. it's going to take a continuing effort, a continuing funding p we're the largest funder, the united states is, and the u.n. with a wonderful u.n. aids program, just a fabulous african doctor, just wonderful, is leading the effort with this great charm and enthusiasm. a real commitment to prevention, and the secretary-general has taken this on along with his commitment to women. women are much more vulnerable than men.
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the large percentage of new aids infections are women. so this is directly related to the health of women and children as the aids issue. so managing this in a comprehensive way is something that the secretary-general has led on and, of course, mrs. clinton has been really terrific in her following up with this administration and the support of the administration. >> the focus on women and children is so critical, and the cultural issues, you mentioned stigma, eliminating the stigma as one of the main goals. i was shocked frankly being ignorant to this when i was in nairobi with secretary clinton last year to discover when we went through one of the world's largest and worst slums, the children in these schools, orphans who had been so damaged because of the cultural sense that men feel they can be cured by aids by having sex with a
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virgin and they rape these children. some of them their own children, in order to get the cure and then the children orphaned are taken care of by these wonderful nurturing people but the horrors that are visited upon these children even those not born with it. >> this is the prevention side. it's got to come with a major education program, a major -- in women the ability to protect and defend themselves which is terribly, terribly important and also to understand what happens to people so they don't get stigmatized. just 30 years ago in the united states, for example, i remember when i was in the congress we sent out a mailing 30 years ago to everybody in the state that i represented in colorado on aids. sort of introducing people to aids, that this was not -- how to think about this and so on, even 30 years ago in the united states the crescendo of negative response -- >> that has changed. >> that's changed dramatically. so it's changed in the united states, it's changing across the world. it now has to change very much in africa and, in fact, be
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admitted and discussed in a number of other countries where people say, well, with he don't have aids. well, of course they do, but they have to deal with it and deal with it by being honest. >> our thanks to the u.n. foundation and you and ted turner for his funding and everything you're doing. thank you so much. >> it's a great privilege to be able to work on it. thank you. we have breaking news. nbc news has confirmed that cia director leon panetta has arrived on a surprise visit to pakistan for a critical talk with pakistan's intelligence chief. a top level meeting. they're two of a kind.
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well, we all know who had the worst week in washington, chris cillizza. that's clear, so let's talk about the next 24. >> sure. >> we only have a few seconds left but the next 24 hours clearly sarah palin. >> yeah. i saw you and chuck talking about it earlier. it's exactly right. this is probably the next 72 hours to look at. 24,000-plus e-mails sarah palin wrote as governor of alaska. her pac has already put out a statement saying these e-mails
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show the governor is hard at work. it's going to be a lot of political junkies weekends reading. >> we will see you monday. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tamron hall is up next with "news nation." in health care administration. by choosing a university that connects working students to faculty who are also leaders in their fields, she was able to apply her studies to the real world, and help more people, much quicker. my name is diane wilson, i deliver the best gifts on earth, and i am a phoenix. [ male announcer ] university of phoenix is proud to sponsor education nation. because we believe an educated world is a better world. there's another way to minimize litter box odor: purina tidy cats. our premium litters now work harder to help neutralize odors in multiple cat homes. purina tidy cats. keep your home smelling like home.
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